The "Got Milk?" Jim:"At the very least, all “have got” is is four more keys typed with no change in meaning. " I've Gotta Get a Message to You " is a song by the Bee Gees. What's more British course books don't "make a huge fuss" about "have got to", they simply let foreign students know that British native speakers will often use this. It's one of the many things I've noticed, alongside a Brit's way of asking a question, "Have you got a meeting this afternoon?" Probably, but it really doesn't matter if they are logically equivalent. There is a difference, but it is usually trivial. Now you should know that I've got can mean I possess in both BrE and AmE. Just because you can't hear subtle use variations doesn't mean they aren't there. And what about all those others: chips / crisps / fries, pants / trousers / knickers. Gratuit. "I totally agree. Really the only difference is that we use "have got" in normal informal spoken language, and "have" in more formal spoken language and in writing. I teach mainly Upper-intermediate to Proficiency students, and at this level, we really do have to go into some detail. they've, we've, you've, you've (he's, she's, etc.) ''have [verb] - (In some senses have got is also used, especially in British English.) Pah! @jayles - OK, we can agree on something, at least. And please don’t use the excuse that it’s normal communication, with that reasoning "they’re" and "there" will soon be synonymous. As Tom says, in Britain "have got" is the standard way of talking about possession in spoken English. ... - I’ve got some pills which are good for digestion.   Permalink (notice either way,it is past tense) If you know of a legitimate reference that goes further, let me know. Trust what occurs in specific instances, not what general rules say. The English language (as with pretty much any language) is filled with examples of multiple ways of expressing the same idea. "Do you have a condom?" The same would be true of its use in the second or third person. "Must" is not exactly equivalent to "have got to" - it conveys more of a sense of urgency or personal obligation, and the negative "mustn't" is certainly not the same as "haven't got to". You complained that "got" has been stretched to mean present tense possession. There is a slight change in tense, but not an exact one. I've had enough of this. I wonder if it would have been more proper or at least clearer to have said“Well I need to go now, I want to work on a project that I have.”But that’s just me I ‘sposeBye all, it been fun, 17 votes belong to. "I presume I'm the one who's "harping on" .. " - no , nie jest obraził (obrażony). Have got has the same meaning as have and both are used as present tenses. So, "I have" and "I have got" do not actually mean the same thing, but anything you can say one about, you can just as readily say the other about. The only difference is grammatical - we can only use "have got" in present simple - and one of formality. But your example "I got a new hat" is not the same as "I've got a new hat". And that's why we teach these constructions to foreign learners (together with their limits): so that they will sound more natural and speak good idiomatic English. This of course doesn't negate the fact that we occasionally also use "have got" as the present perfect of "get" - "I've just got myself a new car", and we would probably interpret "I've just got a virus from somewhere" as "I've just contracted a virus" (although I don't follow the logic of why somebody should think that use of the present perfect should mean something is no longer true, as in your example; we never use it like that for anything else). ", "I've a good mind to ..." etc. And in my field, what would we teach foreign learners? "Not only that, but the tone of voice in general is different, I don't know how to explain it through text but there is a clear difference between where people in Britain and people in the US will stress words to ask a question, the British version sounding more like a statement than a question. Jim: I'm not sure about your logic.What about "I have a car" (present) and "I bought a car" (past)? I've got definition, meaning, English dictionary, synonym, see also 'they've',we've',you've',you've (he's, she's, etc.)   Permalink I suspect, but have no scientific evidence to back this up, that very often when we have a choice, between 'which' or 'that' for example, we go for the one which involves the least mouth movement. Use it. If 'I've got' was present perfect we would be able to use past simple and past perfect of 'get' with same meaning (which we patently can't): She's got blonde hair = She has blonde hair, * When I first knew her she got brown hair - where did she obtain it from, I wonder? (Notice past, future and perfect forms all use simple 'have') This usage for possession is probably more common in the UK than simple 'have'. It seems the latest Scottish word to catch on in England is 'minging', (red-lined) which in Scotland originally meant smelling badly, but seems to be taking on a meaning among English young people of 'very bad, unpleasant or ugly'. Many translated example sentences containing "i've got" – Spanish-English dictionary and search engine for Spanish translations. If it is true that superfluous words are an evil, we ought to condemn ' the lady has got black eyes' but not 'the lady has got a black eye'. But the students are free to use whichever version they like. The Beatles provide an example of BrE in I've got a feeling , while another two of many many American uses are those of Frank Sinatra in I've got you under my skin and Garth Brook's (I've got) friends in low places (1:13 etc) . @AnwulfJohn could also have said "Yes, I have it", or maybe even "Yes, mum". @Sharm - not in BrE at least, where 'I've got a car' means 'I possess a car', whereas 'I've just got a car' means 'I've just obtained a car'. @AnwulfJohn could also have said "Yes, I have it", or maybe even "Yes, mum". Most teachers feel a responsibility to their students to teach them English that is both grammatical and natural. In speech, the contraction is said. When an Americsn would say, "Do you have a meeting this afternoon? Do you have the flu? So yes, there is definitely a Standard English, and as there are considerable general variations between the American sort and the British sort, it is entirely appropriate to talk of British Standard English and American Standard English. @joelackey92 - to back up Thomas Smith, there is absolutely no difference in meaning between "She has brown hair" and "She's got brown hair". @dogreed - again in BrE 'I have a rash' means exactly the same as 'I have got a rash' - 'have got' is simply an alternative present tense of 'have' (Shaw - Practical English Usage), 48 votes   Report Abuse.   Report Abuse. ... "Yes, I'v got it." And there is no temporal difference either. 20 votes I've got - traduction anglais-français. And with your example of "I got paid yesterday", you are into a different use of "got" altogether, as a sort of less formal passive. I imagine that this was the origin of many irregular forms. "I have" would be used primarily in the instance where you have had something for quite sometime. They all basically mean the same thing, namely "very big". And nor would I ever use an argument such as 'it's people like you who ...'.   Report Abuse. Firstly, this is a complete non-sequitur. does.   Permalink It's not rocket science. (notice either way,it is past tense) If you know of a legitimate reference that goes further, let me know. Both Oxford and Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionaries list 'have got' under 'have', not 'get'. ", I've got the world on a string, sitting on a rainbow, Today,they have got a modern lap top computer. Exactly the same applies to 'have got to' and 'have to'. In fact if your Present perfect theory is correct, how do you explain "have got to" - the Present perfect of "get to"? It may be wrong, but I definitely feel that stronger than, "I have(or need) to go to bed." I'd have thought this one would have petered out by now, 22 months and still going strong! But there are some essential grammar points we have to make about when you can and can't use each construction. However there is also the matter of register, date, context, genre, intonation, background culture and which dialect of English we are addressing. Say 'I have a car' and then 'I've got a car', and notice how your mouth moves. - be quiet! In other cases there is a slight distinction: I have a rash versus I have got a rash. It hasn't, full stop, period (at least not in this idiomatic use). It is a present tense, about the present. Haha.There is the past-present tense difference, but it's really just where you're from, they can and usually do mean the same thing. But your last two examples are rather interesting: I think these cases of contracted "have" are perhaps as equally as idiomatic as the "have got" versions, or perhaps even more so. One problem is that every attempt here to explain some 'subtle difference' between 'have' and 'have got' involves some interpretation based on obtaining something, and as my examples above show, grammatical possession is about much more than owning or obtaining something. When this is not the case, or when a speaker is being a literalist dick, "Have" refers to possession in the most general sense, "got" is used to focus attention on the specific situation. ©2021 Reverso-Softissimo. is not "ungrammatical" nor is it any less clear than "Have you done your homework? Oddly, yu won't find it written out much that way ... at least not beyond chats and maybe some forums. With simple "have" I grant that it happens much more often: "Hey, I've an idea. 86 votes But "have got to" and "have to" are more about general obligation, for example to talk about rules and regular obligation. It's people like you that would tell TS Eliot to change "Let us go then, you and I" to "Let us go then, you and me" which would positively screw up one of the best loved lines in English literature, just because of your preposterous need to cling to the rules in all instances rather than using your ears and your mind and treating rules as the rough guidelines they are. own. The 'I've got' construction is nothing to do with present perfect, of 'get' or anything else - so the 'j'ái' thing is neither here nor there. That hardly sounds like a nuance to me. Does it make any difference if a try to use it this way? I believe that if you polled a lot of people, and asked the definition of got (not have got) they would say something similar to “have”, and that’s my issue, the distinction between have and got doesn’t exist to a significant % of the population. For more information on the conjugation of the verb "to get" see http://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-get.htmlWhen using the present perfect tense the writer is emphsizing the present effect of an action which happened in the past. 2.French does have a tense constructed in the same way as present perfect - passé composé, which has two functions. It is not expressing anything unique about the reality of "having' a noun. It should be "I ate breakfast at 9AM.". @Harrycastle, belatedly - "In the French language, for example, the present perfect doesn't exist - rather they use a simple present. Until then, how you stretch "got" to mean present tense possession is beyond me. ", which could be one reason why "Have milk?" 1. used especially in speech to mean ‘have’.   Report Abuse. Next, Jim, I did give you a "legitimate references that goes further": Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage. @Kernel Sanders - I'm afraid I have to disagree with you about these nuanced differences. @jayles - re: emails - most internal emails are written in relatively informal language, so contractions and constructions like "have got (to)" are entirely appropriate. wouldn't work. Obviously, in BrE, got is used for both forms and gotten is incorrect. (see my link to MWDEU). The same with passive "got": this is an informal construction. But in speech, it's ordinary, common idiom, nothing to worry about. In the same way "Give me a call sometime" might indicate real interest or almost quite the opposite, depending on context. If it gets my feeling across, I will say it until I die. It was two other adults, myself, and two children. Forums pour discuter de I've got, voir ses formes composées, des exemples et poser vos questions. In case I’m wrong I took your advice and looked up “have got”. http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/have, http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/have_2, http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/have_2, http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/have, http://esl.about.com/cs/beginner/a/beg_havegot.htm, http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/have-got-grammar.aspx, http://www.better-english.com/havegot.htm, http://books.google.com/books?id=2yJusP0vrdgC&lpg=PP1&dq=merriam-websters%20dictionary%20of%20english%20usage&pg=PA498#v=onepage&q=have%20got&f=false, http://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-get.html, http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/standard.htm, http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/standbriteterm.htm, http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Guide-Standard-American-English/dp/0231069898, http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/blogs/marcc22/american-versus-standard-british-english, http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English, http://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/STELLA/LILT/scottishse.htm. ... you're refering to someone sitting in there chair and then gets up to go do something else quickly. The only time it's used in AmE without have being contracted is when one wants to express that the action is critical (e.g. is ok, but not "I have eaten breakfast at 9AM." You want to reject this entry: please give us your comments (bad translation/definition, duplicate entries...), you've (he's, she's, etc.) In old German it was the same as in British English but now is used to mean the same as the past tense. 27 votes Anonymous. Boots and fur-lined leather coat.   Report Abuse. Thank you all!   Report Abuse. As cnelsonrepublic says, "have" is an auxiliary verb. You don't usually use have got in future or past forms. If you hear an American speaking, we (*should*) normally use 'have got' for present tense and 'have gotten' for the present perfect (I've got the book -- present possession vs. But there's another, much simpler reason it would sound ridiculous - we just don't often elide sentences (miss words out) with "have" - "Have a car?" Jim, of course "have" and "got" belong next to each other. But "have to" has exactly the same meaning as "have got to" and their negatives correspond. I agree with those who find more humor than horror in regional usages of expressions, but it wasn't always that way! In the spoken form, 'got to' is shortened to 'gotta' and the word 'have' is dropped. wherefore Englishmen will say, "I've got a meeting this afternoon." Posted by ESC on November 22, 2003. Perhaps in America the situation is different. Conversely, everything you have got, you still have, unless of course, you've disposed of it somehow (in which case, you'd probably say "had got"). As a Canadian raised in the US, I think I may be stuck somewhere between British and American usage on some of these topics. In spoken English 'have got' is simply more natural (as MWDEU says - link below). Linguists discuss Standard English at University College London: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/standard.htm, Standard British English, grammar.about.com;http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/standbriteterm.htm, The Columbia Guide to Standard American English:http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Guide-Standard-American-English/dp/0231069898, BBC / British Council - American vs Standard British English:http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/blogs/marcc22/american-versus-standard-british-english, British-domiciled American Linguist's blog comparing the two standards:http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Englishhttp://www.arts.gla.ac.uk/STELLA/LILT/scottishse.htm. Many languages of Europe 'ave a form using "have+participle"; however, the exact usage is different. @Warsaw Will, you clearly are too obsessed with specialist book definitions and don't pay enough attention to actual use. Synonyms and related words. He's got a wonderful family and they've got a lovely old house in the country, which his family have had for centuries. 3 votes "got" is the past tense, but it's also a past participle. You can say "I've got ten toes" even though you've always had them. milamber, I appreciate and applaud your credentials; however in my 29 years in my own profession one thing I’ve learned is that it’s hard to find someone who knows everything about their profession. I made a comment that went something like, "I've got all the same color," meaning the cards. I got a cup of coffee and I got a new shirt are both 100% correct meaning SIMPLE PAST of get (as in: I got a cup of coffee this morning on the way to work; or I got a new shirt as a birthday present). But its primary function is much the same as present perfect - "Le passé composé fonctionne normalement comme forme d'accompli dans le présent" (Grammaire du francais - Denis, Sancier-Chateau, Livre de Poche) - The passé composé functions normally as a form of completion in the present: "Jusqu'á présent Paul ná écouté que de la musique classique""Up until now Paul has only listened to classical music.". This afternoon alone he's got three client meetings. Proper as it may be, hearing "You've got..." repeatedly during an given Al Roker segment is redolent of a cat sliding down a chalkboard tree. In the meantime if you google 'have got', the first two entries are About.com and GrammarGirl - they will give you an American perspective while the other references are being approved. They'll never be synonymous no matter how you spell them. Contractions are used for expedience, so go for the most efficient form that doesn't confuse.   Permalink This question has been around for a long time. There is the past-present tense difference. So here's a couple (or four) -, http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/havehttp://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/have_2http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/have_2http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/have, And from ESL and grammar websiteshttp://esl.about.com/cs/beginner/a/beg_havegot.htmhttp://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/have-got-grammar.aspxhttp://www.eslbase.com/grammar/have-gothttp://www.better-english.com/havegot.htm (quiz with examples). "Yes"…. I could go on ad infinitum, but I must go. In both countries you frequently hear "I've got", which is (in my opinion) completely interchangeable with "I have". It is enough to be clear, use appropriate intonation, register and style, and know enough about the culture not to put your foot in it. What I'v found is that most folks will answer in the same way the frain was asked ... "Do you hav the book?" No. It is more of a spoken form. Ok, this really shouldn't be all that hard to understand. Even if you were born with a particular trait, you still received it at the moment of your creation (reincarnation notwithstanding). &Chris BI agree. PPS I also want to acknowledge that we do use got to and gotta (improperly) without have in the US, myself included. What you say when you are 100% sure of your ability to make something your bitch. There's nothing wrong, grammatically or semantically, with such an assertion. 2 votes Well yes, I am relatively sure of myself because I've been teaching English for ten years, and I also checked out my facts fairly carefully before commenting, see references above. - "As a teenager, he once got arrested for stealing cars".   Report Abuse. While both words have more than one meaning, let's compare "to have" meaning "to possess", with "to get", meaning "to receive". GOT (auxiliary verb) (informal) must; have got (followed by an infinitive). The same with vocabulary: there are regional differences of course, but there are certain words, like faucet, which are familiar to all Americans but which many Brits have no idea about (it's tap in BrE). © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. See also: (I've) got to go. Oh, but I do. There are even a few grammatical differences: many BrE speakers (and their media) prefer a plural verb with group nouns like team, government etc, but this seems anathema to many AmE speakers. Do people often say one when they really mean the other? There is no standard "American" English anymore than there is a standard "British" English. I might just add that the usage of the present perfect to talk about actions happening in the present is not solely and English issue. (also have got) have something (not used in the progressive tenses) to own, hold or possess something" - Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. would sound ridiculous because there would be no reference anywhere to a context of acquiring milk and therefore milk is being treated as an attribute and this laconic question could only conceivably be asked to a woman about her own lactation. I use it daily as do most of my native AmE speaking friends. Would you suggest we only ever use "huge" because it's shorter than the alternatives? Yes, that's how it probably started, but it hasn't had that meaning for centuries. See more. In the car, Mom says, "Do yu hav yur book?" - 1. In Reply to: I've got your number posted by James Briggs on November 22, 2003: : As if to say, "I know what you're up to" or "I've got my eye on you" - where did "I've got your number" originate? To red(d) ... not on your list) is to clean up or get ready. 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